We shouldn’t use labels like “Alternative” and “Conventional” Medicine
We shouldn’t use labels like “Alternative” and “Conventional” Medicine
What is alternative medicine? Does alternative medicine work? The University of Toronto recently stirred up a bit of controversy by uncritically offering a class on “Alternative Medicine.” When people looked at the coursework, which included many studies debunked by this channel, some people started to freak out. The issue highlights a much larger problem: No one is sure how best to teach that subject.
The dichotomy, however, between alternative and traditional medicine, or between Eastern and Western medicine, is a false one. We would be much better off if we could reframe the issue. That’s the topic of this week’s Healthcare Triage.
This episode was based on a post I wrote for the Upshot. Links to sources and more reading can be found there: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/11/upshot/labels-like-alternative-medicine-dont-matter-the-science-does.html
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COZ ZERO SUM UP GAMES… WESTERN MEDICINE LOOKS LIKE HEAL THE SICK PART OF THE BODY BUT DESTROYS THE LARGER PARTS OF UR BODY WITHOUT U EVEN REALIZE IT.
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Homeopathy is a proven treatment for at least one problem. If your wallet is feeling bloated and just too full homeopathy will help with that.
We should call it Medicine without side effects. Doctors are prescribing "healthy diet" but have no clue what that means, a Government promoting pyramid that get people sicker and sicker. Keto, plant-based and even paleo diet have reverted quite a lot of illnesses, the internet is overflowing with testimonials, the only one that doesn’t it is the one "all in moderation" diet prescribed by doctors. (How many hours a doctor study nutrition/biology/chemistry to understand this subject??- probably around 10 hours in their 6 years uni ) .
Folic acid – synthetic. Why can you not offer folate – natural. Why don’t doctors tell that it is far more important to start taking folate before getting pregnant as it’s just a bit too late after conception.
Don’t know anything about homeopathy but there is a thing called the placebo effect that if people believe something will help them, it actually does!! plenty of studies on placebo and nocebo (when a doctor discourages you for example, people die quicker and health worsens)
Studies made on vitamins are made with synthetic vitamins and the results aren’t that great. What about getting them done with natural vitamins? They used incomplete Vitamin E(tocopherols only), also incomplete Vitamin C(ascorbic acid only). Complete different story when they are natural (ex. curcumin, quercetin, edta, nattokinase, etc – amazing studies)
Medication is something the body doesn’t recognise – yep, it’s an E.T. ! – and it fights against it, thus all the side effects . It is necessary for a (VERY) short time/ term solution perhaps but as medication only treats the symptoms, shouldn’t we focus more on the cause of the problem (prevention included) not to need to take these E.Ts?
Even aspirin can be replaced with pycogenol . Statins are still on the market and they have almost no benefit (some may help with cancer treatments) . Then you get the hundreds of studies done and only 4 or 5 are published because it matches a bit more with the sponsor (pharmaceutical Industry) – yep, they are a profit shares concern industry and the more customers, more profits, just so we have this in mind.
They ridicule anyone that questions the big Corps. (not an antivaxxer) but shouldn’t we allow more studies to be published? not only the hand picked ones ?
Doctors have been brained washed, not their fault, but it is our responsibility to improve ourselves. it is a lot of weird, irrelevant information out there but if we don’t do it for ourselves, who will? I would start with people that understand more about how our bodies work (biochemists, biohackers) and doctors that research. everyone is different and once you start looking into evidence (even though some are manipulated for their profit) more and more we learn. Most important is not to accept and have fixed ideas on what is right (many have been disproved – eggs and saturated fats for example) because most doctors don’t research and are not open to contradict their uni professors. Saying that, there are countries adapting to Integrative Medicine (better communication doctor/patient), Functional Medicine (less alopatic medicine, more natural alternative) and even Quantum Magnetic resonance diagnosis (sounds promising). In the UK it’s the opposite, less communication, healthcare is a shambles and people are sicker than ever but but but they have amazing access online for vitamins/minerals,etc (like the US) and we all have the internet (Google Scholar, Pubmed, etc)
Anything from vitamin c, to vinegar, to baking soda, to herbal remedies, to homeopathy, to prayers, to essential oils, to Himalayan salt, to stanning Loona needs to be proven to cure the disease it claims to, or at the very least, do the healing it claims to.
As an add-on to your comment about Acupuncture, there has since been follow up studies showing sham acupuncture, while was "pretty good" in the short run, in a 6th month follow up, the statistical significance of real acupuncture was clear, real acupuncture had a much higher rate of pain relief over extended periods of time. Yet people pick and choose which studies they read, which add to the problem of moving more and more well proven modalities such as acupuncture into mainstream acceptance.
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Herbal remedies have been studied yet most doctors dont seem to know anything about them or their use. Why is that?
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The proliferation of "alternative medicine" might be partially a result of the fact that few doctors do their own research, as was more common in the past. Also, in your opinion, are doctors influenced by the pharmaceutical industry? I have had general practitioners refuse to consider some methods that actually have been tested. I don’t disparage doctors in general, yet they are human. Some percentage of them must be lazy.
Vitamin D-3 (not a vitamin at all, but considered by some a statin), is highly suspect as it causes bone loss leading to calcium shards floating in the bloodstream, artery damage, which then leads to hardened arteries and brain dysfunctions like Alzheimer’s and dementia; even kidney failure. D-3 = cholecalciferol, derived from sheep’s lanolin (remember Brylcream hair dressing?) a popular rat/mouse poison produced by Bell Labs. Doctors can’t agree on correct calcium levels in the bloodstream, so they choose to err on the high side accelerating the onset of the above mentioned, self inflicted diseases. In 2013 the amount of D-3 added to dairy was increased. Why? Because doctors are selfish and want to make more money with the growing population coming down with ailments (supposedly) caused by natural aging. Doctors will lie and tell you calcium shards are consumed by drinking homogenized milk. Truth: if you "drank" a shard of calcium, it could not get into your blood stream, it would stay in the bowels. More lies doctors will tell you involve consuming wood based food additives like cellulose used in breads, ice cream and some cheese products and soups; they say it passes through your body unchanged, just adding (unnatural) fiber. The truth is it ferments (yeast + sugar + water + time = fermentation = wood alcohol which is poisonous). Have a nagging cough you can’t get rid of? The wood alcohol alters your mucus, causes IBS, perforated bowel and probably more. Then we could venture into GMO crops like Roundup Corn by Monsanto that is killing the honey bee population (and you). You can thank the doctors on the FDA board and Bill Clinton who took a huge bribe to get GMO’s introduced to our food chain.
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Health and fitness is the first priority of every person in the world. Use of Alternative and Conventional or Traditional use of medicine is on rising pace. Read article https://campuspress.yale.edu/tribune/alternative-drug-culture-continues-to-rise/ for more information.
I’ll also throw in the fact that studies now show that in a 5 year follow up between patients who get surgery for lower back pain, or knee pain, there is no statistical significance between those who had no treatment and those who had surgery. yet we still spend tens of thousands of dollars per treatment.
it is exactly as you say it. we are simply used to accepting what we are used to.
I a reiki master teacher. The truth is you stuck on Newtonian medicine. Homeopathic people don’t understand. herbalism works aromapathy works. But education makes it safe. Drugs work on markers and drugs are working. I will not go to a medical doctor in Canada because of single-payer health care. Homopathic works on quantum reality and so does so many reiki herbs and holistic food.
Is there a ‘list’ somewhere of all the known plant-based drugs and their effects?
mainstream medicine is mostly pseudoscientific quackery, proven by it’s failure to get sick well. if it worked, people wouldn’t seek alternatives.
This makes no god damn sense. You MUST follow the evidence. If it is there, it is clearly true, if it isn’t, it is false. *sigh* There are days I hate the normal functioning human brain…and then I remember why mine isn’t and just wonder what shades of grey feel like.
Considering the fact that "conventional" medicine is the third leading cause of death in this country, I think making the distinction between conventional and alternative is most useful. People intuitively understand that alternative practitioners aren’t likely to kill them.
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So accociation between acupuncture practice and pain relief was observed in the study you mentioned?
Correlation doesn’t equate causation doc, I know you have used the phrase so many times that if you take the study for granted, you would come out hypocritical.
My problem with that study about homeopathy is that it ignores side effects
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Remember the old joke: do you know what they call alternative medicine that works? Medicine
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I completely agree with all Dr. Carroll pointed out in this video. Particularly, I enjoyed the notion that medicine is either proven or unproven. There should be no conventional versus alternative medicine, just that which is supported to work. To add to this topic, I want to discuss an ethical viewpoint of recommending laboratory-made medicine over other treatment options.
Health professionals are supposed to act to benefit others as they are mandated to adhere to the principle of beneficence. Recommending a treatment that has no support is not benefiting a patient unless they have tried everything else and they are grasping at straws to find something that works. Recommending treatments whether they are laboratory-made drugs, exercise, a healthier diet, meditation, or natural drugs benefits patients as long as they have gone through the vigorous research cycle and have been proven to work.
Health professionals who prescribe laboratory-made drugs over supported alternatives like taking vitamins, exercising, or switching to a healthier diet are acting ethically as long as the drug is proven to work and the patient chose that treatment option. Respect for autonomy is big in healthcare and individuals have the right to choose what treatment option they want, just as health professionals have the right and duty to express their recommendations. The only mishap here would be if a patient took the recommendation of a health professional who chooses not to keep up with current research and only recommends one treatment without acknowledging the strengths of others. Refusal to change one’s behavior when research supports other treatments over the preferred one is unethical of health professionals. They should always be willing to change their practice and recommendations if research permits it. This is the only way to ensure one is continually acting to benefit their patients.
All in all, it is not unethical to prescribe laboratory-made drugs over alternatives as long as there is proof that it works, all options were expressed to the patient, and the patient chose that treatment option. The patient should always have the final decision and the health professional should always present the patient with all the supported treatment options currently known.
Tying this to a few individuals’ comments to Dr. Carroll’s video, I urge individuals to stop complaining about being prescribed more and more drugs or undergoing treatment that does not work for them. Not all individuals respond the same to certain treatments. It is not guaranteed that it will work for you, that is why there are different options to consult your doctor about. Take the time to research alternatives, find supported options, and confront your doctor about trying them. I understand there is a lack of willingness to change practice for some health professionals. This is a problem I alluded to above. Yet, if they do not change, you have to take it upon yourself to. Get second opinions, research reputable sources, and take charge of your health. Though we would like our health professionals to be completely responsible for our health, that is not the case. You are responsible for it too.
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I definitely agree on this, especially because good natural remedies can end up getting mixed up with a bunch of mundo jumbo spirit stuff all under the umbrella “alternative medicine”. But at the same time herbal like medicine should be differentiated from big hospital medicine like pills and such, just because they are so different.
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The Singapore Govt allows Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) to be practised and accredited under the TCM Act (2000). However, this may be a cunning move that is specific to a society like Singapore.
Singapore has a ethnic Chinese majority, and a significant percentage of the Chinese population believe in the efficacy of TCM.
BUT, the efficacy of TCM has not been proven. The Singapore Govt is not soft-headed. So why did it recognise and allow TCM to be practised with official sanction?
Short answer: politics.
Longer answer: Recognising TCM would score political points with the traditional Chinese who believe in TCM. Also, while the efficacy of TCM is not proven, it is also unlikely to be harmful. And in the best case scenario, there is the placebo effect. So the net effect is that there is no harm, the patient feels better because of placebo effect (maybe), and some patients are diverted from the national healthcare system to TCM. The lines at the national healthcare polyclinics are shorter, and people are happier (or at least less unhappy), and this is political points for the govt.
Well, that is the cynical view.
Q: Would TCM be right for your city/state/country?
A: would any of the advantages in the longer answer apply to your city/state/country?
Wow this was very disappointing and there is clearly a lack of distinction between evidence-based medicine and science-based medicine. I suggest the writers familiarize themselves. In regards to moxibustion alone: https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/moxibustion/
Placebo is one hell of a drug!